nerd_man

nerd_man @ 2009-07-20T17:24:00

2009-07-20T21:24:29Z

[21:18:46] momlol > vicegrip
[21:18:49] Vicegrip > momlol
[21:18:54] momlol > im almost completly screwed
[21:19:00] Vicegrip > oh boy
[21:19:12] momlol > what
[21:19:26] Vicegrip > go ahead, tell me what's going on
[21:19:26] momlol > amonse talked shit and i said ima make my own corp
[21:19:38] momlol > so im kinda screwed since i know all my friends are more friends with amonse
[21:19:44] momlol > and everything i say is relayed to him
[21:20:11] momlol > so i need members once i make it and guys ready for war
[21:20:35] Vicegrip > You want to go to war with Amonse?
[21:20:41] momlol > yup
[21:20:59] Vicegrip > have fun with that bud, but you aughta get to the part that involves me
[21:21:29] momlol > i just wanted to tell you since i know amonse would when he gets on
[21:21:35] Vicegrip > Lol
[21:21:46] Vicegrip > well the story is interesting, but I intend to be a neutral party
[21:21:58] momlol > thank god
[21:22:04] momlol > i cant have any more peopel on amonse's side
[21:22:12] Vicegrip > I help Amonse with leadership tips as often I can, but I can't really say I have any intention of killing anybody over your guy's disagreement
[21:22:24] momlol > yeah
[21:22:39] Vicegrip > so you can't quite recruit me... but I can assure you I won't be sending him men, ships, or money to aid his war, if he even does start one.
[21:22:40] momlol > ive learned from every one of amonse's mistake
[21:22:47] momlol > i dont want to recreuit anyone
[21:22:52] Vicegrip > I wish I could say for sure the same thing about him
[21:23:13] momlol > yup
[21:23:23] Vicegrip > so... good luck!
[21:23:34] momlol > ima need it
[21:23:35] momlol > cya
[21:23:39] Vicegrip > later

nerd_man @ 2009-05-30T18:10:00

2009-05-30T22:10:40Z

[21:33:38] Viceclamp > o/
[21:33:42] Aurora Spacefarer > hi o/
[21:33:56] Aurora Spacefarer > i would love to talk to you about your chara there
[21:34:05] Aurora Spacefarer > are you interested?
[21:34:09] Viceclamp > Not much to know that's not on the eve sheet =)
[21:34:15] Viceclamp > What would you like to know?
[21:34:34] Aurora Spacefarer > lol i know i wanted to talk to you about possibly selling the chara today?
[21:34:44] Aurora Spacefarer > id give you a good offer
[21:34:52] Viceclamp > depends on the offer, but I'm open to suggestion
[21:35:02] Aurora Spacefarer > ok how much are you looking for
[21:35:19] Aurora Spacefarer > cuz i bidded on a 25 mill sp chara like urs for 8 billion
[21:35:31] Aurora Spacefarer > maybe you will settle for a little less than half that?
[21:35:38] Aurora Spacefarer > and ill throw in some ingame ships?
[21:36:17] Aurora Spacefarer > im craving for a mimi chara like the one ur on right now =P
[21:36:19] Viceclamp > well what about 3.2 bil cash, or lower it a bit depending on what you can throw in
[21:36:51] Aurora Spacefarer > i can do 3.4 billion lol but would you like it to be in the form of 1 VERY exspensive ship?
[21:37:09] Aurora Spacefarer > --link-- thats my pvping ship
[21:37:30] Aurora Spacefarer > ive pvped in 0.0 with it many time alrdy
[21:37:34] Aurora Spacefarer > or i can get you cash
[21:37:44] Aurora Spacefarer > i can get the cash but it will take like 1 hr
[21:37:56] Viceclamp > hmmm!
[21:38:05] Viceclamp > a moment while I consult my associate =)
[21:38:20] Aurora Spacefarer > http://kb.majesta-empire.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=59090
[21:38:25] Aurora Spacefarer > wait look at that KM
[21:38:38] Aurora Spacefarer > that was not so long ago today
[21:38:44] Aurora Spacefarer > just showing you i have it
[21:39:54] Viceclamp > lol wow
[21:40:19] Aurora Spacefarer > i have tanked easily 8 BS and 2 hacs for 5 minutes
[21:40:31] Aurora Spacefarer > but after 5 mins they all dead =P
[21:40:52] Aurora Spacefarer > im not trying to cheat you as this is my alt and i have been playing since 2004
[21:41:03] Aurora Spacefarer > i have never had a mimi chara tho =P
[21:41:15] Aurora Spacefarer > and i feel the need for 1 now =)
[21:41:30] Viceclamp > Lol
[21:42:07] Viceclamp > its an expensive ship. But I do not have a gallente toon
[21:42:35] Aurora Spacefarer > thats kool i can get you 3 bill cash within 20 minutes could you settle for that much?
[21:42:48] Aurora Spacefarer > 3 billion seems fair
[21:43:28] Aurora Spacefarer > i can throw in a BS or something to make it a little higher
[21:44:41] Aurora Spacefarer > o and is the attribute remap availiable?
[21:44:46] Viceclamp > yes
[21:44:59] Aurora Spacefarer > sweet ill throw in a BS for sure ontop of 3 billion
[21:45:49] Viceclamp > alright well thanks for the offer but I am still shopping around and looking at my options
[21:46:01] Viceclamp > I'll contact you within a day or two if I make up my mind
[21:46:36] Aurora Spacefarer > wat did you say you wanted for a b/o today?
[21:46:42] Aurora Spacefarer > lol i really want you =P
[21:48:04] Viceclamp > lol
[21:48:29] Viceclamp > I didn't even get any feedback on the forums for what I'm worth. I need to do a little more research
[21:48:35] Aurora Spacefarer > i can offer 3.2 billion like you said
[21:48:36] Viceclamp > you're the second offer I've had today though
[21:48:42] Viceclamp > and the better one
[21:48:55] Aurora Spacefarer > I CAN GO HIGHER IS THAT WAT YOU WANT =P
[21:49:06] Aurora Spacefarer > mate i really NEEEEDDDD.... u
[21:49:38] Aurora Spacefarer > im willing to sell a tech 3 cruiser and reach into my banking chara for that chara of urs
[21:49:54] Aurora Spacefarer > look on the forums for how much a chara like urs goes for
[21:51:26] Viceclamp > Am I the only one up right now?
[21:52:38] Aurora Spacefarer > litterally yes and your like the only one that is close to being affordable
[21:52:48] Aurora Spacefarer > others are being overpriced
[21:53:34] Aurora Spacefarer > in reality a 10 mill sp chara is worth 3b at the most anything over that is a good deal cuz your getting isk just off of having the chara
[21:53:54] Aurora Spacefarer > its 300 mill a month to pay for eve plexs in game
[21:54:04] Viceclamp > closer to 400 now =/
[21:55:07] Aurora Spacefarer > really?
[21:55:20] Viceclamp > yeah, plexes have inflated since you can pay for fanfest with them
[21:55:21] Aurora Spacefarer > eve forums still say average price is 300 mill
[21:57:10] Aurora Spacefarer > yeah i see they went up to an average of 375 million
[21:57:21] Viceclamp > ;)
[21:58:07] Aurora Spacefarer > so your chara is worth 3.3 billion net value
[21:58:20] Aurora Spacefarer > id offer that
[22:00:04] Viceclamp > not much of a mission runner I take it?
[22:00:36] Aurora Spacefarer > who me lol i never do missions and i almost never will ever again
[22:00:46] Aurora Spacefarer > i make large sums of isk other ways
[22:00:49] Viceclamp > I do missions with Ofylur Woligabet, highest Q agent in the minmatar quadrant
[22:01:35] Aurora Spacefarer > 3.5 billion isk sound fair?
[22:01:57] Aurora Spacefarer > thats gonna break me
[22:02:09] Viceclamp > okay 3.4b and the T3
[22:02:19] Aurora Spacefarer > ?? wat?
[22:02:30] Viceclamp > T3's about what, 150 million?
[22:02:39] Aurora Spacefarer > 3.4 billion isk AND the tech 3 ship?
[22:02:48] Aurora Spacefarer > LMFAO!!!!
[22:02:55] Aurora Spacefarer > omg dude check the prices
[22:03:05] Aurora Spacefarer > the ship itself is 2.5 billion
[22:03:29] Aurora Spacefarer > mines fully faction fitted which mad it come out to 3.7 billion isk
[22:03:59] Aurora Spacefarer > thats why i was gonna offer you the raw ship with no fittings and 1 billion ontop
[22:04:15] Aurora Spacefarer > check jita contracts for a tech 3 cruiser
[22:05:31] Aurora Spacefarer >

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nerd_man @ 2009-05-30T12:44:00

2009-05-30T16:44:32Z

[16:14:46] Amonse > hello vicegrip
[16:15:00] Vicegrip > what do you want now, Amonse?
[16:15:12] Amonse > i actually wanted to start over
[16:15:41] Amonse > before my corp joined your alliance
[16:15:47] Amonse > i'd like to revert to that
[16:16:28] Vicegrip > how many alliances have you been in since you quit Red Flag?
[16:16:46] Amonse > why do you ask?
[16:16:54] Amonse > 3
[16:17:15] Amonse > 3 and all not right for my guys
[16:17:27] Vicegrip > I mean... do you have any direction at all?
[16:17:33] Vicegrip > I really have no idea what to say to you man
[16:17:43] Vicegrip > I don't even really know what you do in this game.
[16:17:56] Amonse > =) we dont really have a plan right now
[16:18:01] Amonse > our only plan is stay afloat with isk
[16:18:09] Amonse > we had a large betrayal in my corp
[16:18:11] Amonse > recently
[16:18:20] Amonse > lotta guys left
[16:18:26] Amonse > and i'm still feeling the pain from it
[16:19:15] Vicegrip > And what do you want from me?
[16:19:27] Amonse > just wanted to start over
[16:19:46] Vicegrip > ....why?
[16:20:46] Amonse > because i relized that i screwed up
[16:20:53] Amonse > and i used to have powerfulk friends
[16:21:04] Vicegrip > What happened? Lol
[16:21:32] Amonse > yougot mad at me when i left and tried to help
[16:22:03] Vicegrip > well Amonse I have to say, at the end of the day....
[16:22:31] Vicegrip > for a little while there, I thought you were a good little soldier. A bit hyperactive, but maybe you would turn it around, obey orders, and accomplish something.
[16:22:34] Amonse > you were right
[16:22:49] Amonse > yes i screwed up
[16:22:53] Amonse > and i dissapointed you
[16:22:56] Amonse > i admit all of that
[16:23:04] Amonse > i let my dignity slip away
[16:23:06] Vicegrip > But you're sporatic. Impulsive. And you want to be the boss of something so damn bad, you don't even care if its next to nothing. But at least your the boss of it.
[16:23:09] Amonse > until i lost everything
[16:23:31] Amonse > yes and i screwed up
[16:23:39] Vicegrip > so what are you gonna do about it man?
[16:23:44] Amonse > it was a while since i ran something and was respected
[16:23:51] Amonse > thats all i really wanted
[16:23:57] Amonse > was a fleet of people who respected me
[16:24:05] Amonse > i know you respected me
[16:24:13] Vicegrip > Amonse.... you have to learn this, old friend
[16:24:21] Vicegrip > sometimes it is not so bad to lead beside somebody
[16:24:29] Vicegrip > quit trying to climb shit mountain all on your own.
[16:24:51] Amonse > [16:21:33] Beowolf Shadow > Amonse it how you handle yourself
[16:24:55] Amonse > same as all of my mentors
[16:25:06] Amonse > i have taken that advice
[16:25:10] Amonse > wich is why i came to you
[16:25:14] Vicegrip > At the end of the day, I may not be the leader of much. But I know Zar'ax has my back and I will always have his
[16:25:15] Amonse > to start over
[16:25:19] Amonse > i am done with running alliances
[16:25:36] Vicegrip > I can't trust you like that. God knows when you're gonna run off with some great idea and leave me wondering how the hell I'm going to get out of this whole you've dug
[16:25:45] Vicegrip > hole*
[16:26:01] Amonse > yes i know you probably dont trust me a bit
[16:26:09] Amonse > can i invite you to a chat with my mentord
[16:26:18] Vicegrip > sure, I spose.

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[16:26:59] Beowolf Shadow > whats going on
[16:27:00] Amonse > vice
[16:27:03] Amonse > meet beowolf
[16:27:10] Amonse > beowolf meet vice
[16:27:10] Vicegrip > good morning.
[16:27:17] Beowolf Shadow > o/
[16:27:22] Amonse > you two are mentors of mine
[16:27:52] Amonse > beo
[16:27:58] Amonse > i have taken your advice
[16:27:59] Amonse > finally
[16:28:32] Beowolf Shadow > Amonse you still have a long way to go
[16:28:41] Amonse > yes i know
[16:28:46] Amonse > i am done with running alliance
[16:28:49] Amonse > permenantly
[16:29:37] Vicegrip > Amonse... you need to set a goal before you can accomplish it.
[16:29:49] Amonse > yes i know
[16:29:52] Amonse > right now our goal is
[16:30:03] Amonse > keep my corp from going into critical position
[16:30:40] Beowolf Shadow > That isnt exactly a goal
[16:30:49] Amonse > its a goal at the moment
[16:30:57] Amonse > i also have to regain the trust of friends
[16:31:02] Beowolf Shadow > how are you going to get there
[16:31:14] Amonse > i am currently working with sparrow
[16:31:23] Amonse > to regain membership
[16:31:29] Amonse > and econmic prosperity
[16:31:36] Beowolf Shadow > Sparrow cant always save you
[16:31:37] Amonse > right now
[16:31:43] Amonse > yes but in a way
[16:31:47] Amonse > we both rely on eachother
[16:31:55] Beowolf Shadow > Look what happen with megei
[16:32:00] Beowolf Shadow > magei
[16:32:14] Amonse > he didnt rely on dun
[16:32:23] Beowolf Shadow > its Y I have cut ties
[16:32:30] Beowolf Shadow > no but he has on me
[16:32:52] Amonse > thats true
[16:32:59] Beowolf Shadow > I always save him when he did dumb ass mistakes
[16:33:14] Beowolf Shadow > and you saw what happened with the pos
[16:33:17] Amonse > i've saved sparrow
[16:33:20] Amonse > and hes saved me
[16:33:21] Amonse > yes
[16:33:26] Amonse > it was an accident
[16:33:28] Beowolf Shadow > Dun on my word didnt save that pos
[16:33:36] Beowolf Shadow > no it wasnt
[16:33:39] Amonse > and he shouldnt be held against it
[16:33:47] Amonse > he logged off right?
[16:33:51] Amonse > no one couldve predicted
[16:33:54] Amonse > an attack
[16:33:57] Beowolf Shadow > bs
[16:34:05] Beowolf Shadow > he knew full well
[16:34:12] Amonse > so then....
[16:34:37] Beowolf Shadow > you dont put a pos in null sec without guns
[16:34:50] Beowolf Shadow > and/or hardners
[16:35:20] Beowolf Shadow > I rest my case
[16:35:21] Amonse > ok so yes you were right he knew
[16:35:25] Amonse > i dont blame you beo
[16:35:30] Amonse > i guess your right
[16:35:39] Amonse > same for you vice
[16:35:44] Vicegrip > well
[16:35:46] Amonse > you predicted i would fall
[16:35:54] Vicegrip > Amonse, I see much that you have not
[16:35:57] Amonse > and i would fail miserably
[16:36:02] Vicegrip > you'd be wise to heed my guidance
[16:36:06] Amonse > i indeeed have
[16:36:14] Vicegrip > but I'm not going to press it on you anymore
[16:36:57] Vicegrip > I'm not even sure what to say still.
[16:37:02] Amonse > well
[16:37:19] Amonse > whats your advice
[16:37:25] Amonse > i will do my best to follow it
[16:37:28] Vicegrip > get steady with what you're doing
[16:37:50] Vicegrip > whether its missions or trading or PvP.... try and be good at it with what you have and don't aspire for an army until you already have a batallion
[16:38:00] Vicegrip > right now you've got a squad at best, you should do what a squad of men does
[16:38:11] Amonse > i do not even have a squad
[16:38:28] Vicegrip > then you should do what a single man does
[16:38:28] Amonse > lei lei was right
[16:38:36] Amonse > i took bad advice from archon
[16:38:48] Amonse > and archon ended up betraying my entire corp
[16:38:55] Amonse > and taking 8 people with him
[16:39:06] Vicegrip > Amonse... do you have any cash on hand?
[16:39:10] Vicegrip > what do you fly?
[16:39:13] Amonse > barly
[16:39:19] Amonse > i'm flying my pod at the moment
[16:39:23] Amonse > i have 4 million
[16:39:49] Amonse > i'm just trying to regain my friends
[16:39:56] Amonse > many i have trusted
[16:40:00] Amonse > have betrayed me
[16:40:09] Amonse > or screwed me over in some way or another
[16:40:18] Vicegrip > Alright Amonse.
[16:40:23] Vicegrip > I'll give you this chance
[16:40:35] Vicegrip > you've shown yourself a bit traitorous and perhaps even selfish in the past
[16:40:35] Amonse > o7
[16:40:41] Amonse > thank you sir
[16:40:45] Vicegrip > if you can move on then I'll help you how I can
[16:40:54] Vicegrip > don't call upon the Flag without due cause, Amonse.
[16:40:58] Vicegrip > but good luck getting your act together
[16:41:02] Amonse > long live red flag o7
[16:41:21] Vicegrip > long live the red sovereign
[16:41:26] Vicegrip > in whatever form it survives. XD
[16:41:33] Amonse > =P
[16:41:35] Amonse > lets hope it does
[16:41:46] Amonse > /emote holds out hand to be shaked
[16:42:01] Vicegrip > /emote shakes hand
[16:42:18] Vicegrip > fly safe Amonse
[16:42:21] Amonse > fly safe
[16:42:23] Amonse > my friend
[16:42:23] Vicegrip > heed the wisdom of those you respect
[16:42:25] Vicegrip > good day

nerd_man @ 2009-05-02T17:04:00

2009-05-02T21:07:01Z

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Channel ID: 2143076930
Channel Name: Private Chat (Amonse)
Listener: Vicegrip
Session started: 2009.05.02 20:54:14
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[ 2009.05.02 20:54:29 ] Amonse > this involves momlol too
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:31 ] Vicegrip > little busy Amonse. Whats up?
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:32 ] Amonse > now
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:37 ] Amonse > i found this link
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:45 ] Amonse > http://nerd-man.livejournal.com/171425.html
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:48 ] Amonse > well i didnt
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:50 ] Amonse > a corp mate found it
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:56 ] Amonse > i would liek it taken down
[ 2009.05.02 20:54:57 ] Vicegrip > it is the #2 result when you google your name
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:03 ] Vicegrip > I will not take it down.
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:05 ] Amonse > as you did not get my permission
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:07 ] Amonse > why not
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:19 ] Vicegrip > Because I want it to stay up
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:29 ] Amonse > do you relize here
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:36 ] Amonse > this is a breach in the EULA
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:41 ] Vicegrip > it is not
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:48 ] Amonse > you need both peopel to agree
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:55 ] Amonse > before posting it up
[ 2009.05.02 20:55:57 ] Amonse > so you checked eh
[ 2009.05.02 20:56:11 ] Vicegrip > quote the EULA passage that says its illegal.
[ 2009.05.02 20:56:20 ] Amonse > lemem go find it
[ 2009.05.02 20:56:22 ] Amonse > one moment please
[ 2009.05.02 20:56:40 ] momlol > -_-
[ 2009.05.02 20:57:37 ] Vicegrip > What's your role in this, momlol?
[ 2009.05.02 20:57:54 ] momlol > im a witness nuetral to both parties
[ 2009.05.02 20:57:58 ] Amonse > CCP representatives may monitor communications made by or received from you.
[ 2009.05.02 20:58:08 ] Amonse > so in other words
[ 2009.05.02 20:58:13 ] Amonse > you could get in trouble for this
[ 2009.05.02 20:58:16 ] Vicegrip > no lol
[ 2009.05.02 20:58:24 ] Vicegrip > in other words, CCP reserves the right to read what you say
[ 2009.05.02 20:58:43 ] Amonse > well bottom line is
[ 2009.05.02 20:58:48 ] Amonse > why did you put it up
[ 2009.05.02 20:58:57 ] Amonse > do you hate me that much now
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:02 ] Vicegrip > what are you talking about?
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:06 ] Amonse > to leak secure info
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:08 ] Vicegrip > its so Zar'ax can read it.
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:10 ] Vicegrip > secure info?
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:11 ] Amonse > i just wanna know why you posted it
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:21 ] Amonse > that to me counts as secure information
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:26 ] Amonse > he has read it correct?
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:31 ] Amonse > why not
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:35 ] Amonse > save the logs
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:39 ] Amonse > in your notepad
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:42 ] Amonse > and pull them up
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:45 ] Amonse > when you need them
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:48 ] Vicegrip > its more convenient to do it through browser
[ 2009.05.02 20:59:52 ] Vicegrip > what is your big issue with it?
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:00 ] Amonse > i do not want it through the browser
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:05 ] Amonse > it to me is secure information
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:10 ] Amonse > i do not want any of my past
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:14 ] Amonse > to be leaked
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:21 ] Amonse > i respect you that much
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:23 ] Amonse > i would never do that
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:32 ] momlol > amonse
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:41 ] momlol > evertyone knows ure past
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:41 ] Amonse > yes?
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:49 ] Amonse > not really
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:54 ] momlol > u lost a BS to a frig always in debt and likes running alliances
[ 2009.05.02 21:00:59 ] Amonse > my friends do
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:07 ] Amonse > ok so
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:08 ] Amonse > repo
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:12 ] Vicegrip > lol...
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:12 ] Amonse > and like 100 other peopel know
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:19 ] Amonse > i dont want the other 95% of eve to know
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:21 ] Amonse > fair?
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:28 ] Vicegrip > its not like my blog is famous and popular.
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:32 ] momlol > what about repo
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:37 ] Vicegrip > I really don't see why you're so panicked
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:48 ] Amonse > well i found it
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:52 ] Amonse > and it surprised me
[ 2009.05.02 21:01:59 ] Amonse > i mostly came here
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:05 ] Amonse > to see why you posted it
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:08 ] Amonse > and if youll take it down
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:11 ] Vicegrip > Amonse, everything you say to me _IS_ going to become public record.
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:24 ] Vicegrip > if you do not want what you say to be public record.... don't speak to me.
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:25 ] momlol > what
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:37 ] Amonse > that means you too momlol
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:39 ] Amonse > well then
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:49 ] Amonse > just dont post it on the web
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:50 ] momlol > well then if its gonna be in public ill say this then
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:52 ] Vicegrip > do you have a gaia profile? XD
[ 2009.05.02 21:02:56 ] Amonse > nope
[ 2009.05.02 21:03:10 ] momlol > Vice WTF thought we could trust you but you show ur true colors as a dumbass
[ 2009.05.02 21:03:15 ] momlol > and im out of this convo
[ 2009.05.02 21:03:19 ] Amonse > momlol
[ 2009.05.02 21:03:23 ] Amonse > /emote smacks forhead
[ 2009.05.02 21:03:27 ] Amonse > ignore him
[ 2009.05.02 21:04:01 ] Amonse > well
[ 2009.05.02 21:04:08 ] Amonse > in atleast a week
[ 2009.05.02 21:04:16 ] Amonse > please move it to somewhere else
[ 2009.05.02 21:04:26 ] Amonse > not under the tagline "amonse"
[ 2009.05.02 21:04:28 ] Amonse > if you could
[ 2009.05.02 21:04:32 ] Vicegrip > why?
[ 2009.05.02 21:04:58 ] Amonse > i might have people googlin me in the future
[ 2009.05.02 21:05:02 ] Amonse > =)
[ 2009.05.02 21:05:16 ] Amonse > but it makes me look like a pushover
[ 2009.05.02 21:05:20 ] Amonse > wich would get me deced
[ 2009.05.02 21:05:46 ] Vicegrip > Amonse.... do you think for one minute before you do anything?
[ 2009.05.02 21:06:10 ] Vicegrip > You're not a very good diplomat.
[ 2009.05.02 21:06:25 ] Vicegrip > You're not smart. You're not a scientist. You're not a doctor. You're not even a full time employee.
[ 2009.05.02 21:06:30 ] Amonse > all i asked is it to be removed
[ 2009.05.02 21:06:45 ] Vicegrip > your request is being denied.
[ 2009.05.02 21:06:47 ] Vicegrip > good day amonse

nerd_man @ 2009-05-01T18:14:00

2009-05-01T22:16:22Z

[21:59:58] Amonse > well well well
[21:59:58] Vicegrip > Hi Amonse.
[22:00:03] Amonse > time for our diplomatic talks
[22:00:08] Vicegrip > don't you well well well me.
[22:00:15] Amonse > hello vice how was your vacation
[22:00:16] Amonse > sorry
[22:00:18] Amonse > still kinda mad
[22:00:22] Vicegrip > about what?
[22:00:26] Amonse > oh
[22:00:31] Amonse > sorry
[22:00:32] Amonse > well
[22:00:35] Amonse > i got ticked off
[22:00:42] Amonse > because lei lei was tellin me how to spen my money
[22:00:48] Amonse > and was insulting my members
[22:00:52] Vicegrip > you ragequit my alliance while I was on vacation
[22:00:52] Amonse > previous mails
[22:01:13] Amonse > i left because of an argument
[22:01:25] Amonse > me and lei lei got into a big fight
[22:01:32] Vicegrip > about the pheonix. alliance thing?
[22:01:42] Amonse > yes
[22:01:45] Amonse > my alt was running it
[22:01:48] Amonse > just reciveved it
[22:02:08] Vicegrip > Amonse... our dispute was not about 1 billion isk to found the alliance.
[22:02:28] Vicegrip > The dispute was that, having a separate alliance divides and causes jealousy and competition between members which are supposed to work together.
[22:02:42] Amonse > wich i completly agree
[22:02:48] Amonse > it wasnt to attract members of your alliance
[22:02:50] Vicegrip > You constantly strive to add more beurocracy instead of simply expanding on the levels which are already in place.
[22:02:54] Amonse > it was to attract members to a second front
[22:03:09] Amonse > ah yes now i remember
[22:03:12] Vicegrip > But in the process, you completely neglected the first front.
[22:03:28] Amonse > sir if i may say something
[22:03:40] Amonse > i was told to be very delicate with this topic
[22:03:52] Amonse > you let go of the reins
[22:03:59] Amonse > and in my opinion the alliance started to tumble
[22:04:07] Amonse > me and another ceo felt the same way
[22:04:22] Amonse > i am trying to be very carful with what i say about this =S
[22:04:23] Vicegrip > would that CEO be Kraeken of Aberation of Perdition?
[22:04:47] Amonse > well
[22:04:58] Amonse > if i tell you i would request no hostile actions against us
[22:05:03] Amonse > but yes
[22:05:11] Amonse > me and him did share a few of the same views
[22:05:25] Vicegrip > their corporation was booted from the alliance the day after your argument with Lei'lei
[22:05:48] Amonse > hmm
[22:05:51] Amonse > might i ask why?
[22:05:58] Amonse > we got into a heated argument
[22:06:04] Vicegrip > for a negative attitude
[22:06:09] Amonse > ah
[22:06:28] Amonse > we left because of things said to us and we didnt really want to harm your alliance
[22:06:41] Amonse > things were said that wernt meant to be said on both sides
[22:06:49] Amonse > i said things that i would never ever do
[22:08:01] Amonse > and i apologize for that
[22:08:10] Amonse > i understand your frustration
[22:08:15] Amonse > if you are frustrated
[22:08:44] Amonse > we mostly left because of my schedule
[22:08:48] Amonse > and the lack of successful ops
[22:08:58] Amonse > i do however want to help your alliance grow and prosper
[22:09:49] Amonse > and the only way i can do that is doin it my way if you are open to a few suggestions
[22:10:27] Vicegrip > Amonse, I'm certain your time of working with the red flag is over.
[22:10:45] Vicegrip > Your lack of direction has caused drama in my alliance chat and mail for far too long as it is
[22:10:47] Amonse > not quite
[22:10:52] Amonse > well
[22:10:59] Amonse > i understand your frustration
[22:11:03] Amonse > but as you said earlier
[22:11:09] Amonse > there are things to spend isk on
[22:11:17] Amonse > and i made you a promise
[22:11:21] Amonse > one wich i intend to keep
[22:11:26] Amonse > but
[22:11:30] Amonse > just heed my words
[22:11:33] Amonse > get some blues
[22:11:38] Amonse > doesnt have to be major
[22:11:42] Amonse > just blues in general
[22:11:46] Amonse > plan more ops
[22:11:58] Amonse > people like it when they get to participate
[22:12:03] Vicegrip > You're not on the top of my list for sources of good advice.
[22:12:09] Amonse > i can see that
[22:12:17] Amonse > but just giving advice
[22:12:43] Amonse > i do thank you that this diplomatic talk
[22:12:52] Amonse > it has definatly cooled things down
[22:13:18] Amonse > i hope
[22:13:33] Vicegrip > I'm disappointed with you Amonse
[22:13:34] Amonse > there was a period of great tention between my men
[22:13:38] Amonse > well
[22:13:41] Amonse > in a way so am i
[22:13:56] Vicegrip > I really think you quit because you just wanted your name to be the leader of the alliance.
[22:13:58] Amonse > i know you wanted me to do all this stuff
[22:14:05] Amonse > believe what you want
[22:14:10] Vicegrip > and now you're the leader of even less than the Red Flag.
[22:14:27] Amonse > sigh.....
[22:14:36] Amonse > can we not agree to disagree
[22:14:45] Amonse > and leave eachother alone for the time being
[22:14:55] Vicegrip > agreed.
[22:15:03] Vicegrip > Don't send me any private chats asking for money.
[22:15:07] Amonse > /emote holds out hand to be shaked
[22:15:11] Amonse > done =)
[22:15:57] Vicegrip > Have a good life Amonse
[22:15:59] Vicegrip > and good riddance.

nerd_man @ 2009-04-29T18:44:00

2009-04-29T22:46:14Z

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[22:08:36] Vicegrip > Good evening, Alekseyev
[22:08:56] Zar'ax > o/
[22:09:02] Vicegrip > I'd like to thank you for your swift reply. Shall we get straight to business?
[22:09:53] Alekseyev Karrde > evenin
[22:10:05] Alekseyev Karrde > surely. Be advised i am pvping against REPO and responses may be delayed
[22:12:04] Vicegrip > Alright then. We are looking at either as few as 7 one way (14 total) or 15 one way (30 total) jumps for freighter escort. Start and end point is likely to be <b><url=showinfo:5//30002053>Hek</url></b>, but may be elsewhere in metropolis.
[22:12:09] Vicegrip > What's the rate per jump?
[22:12:57] Alekseyev Karrde > for lowsec 2m/jump
[22:13:03] Alekseyev Karrde > if you want 0.0 it'll be 3m/jump
[22:14:09] Vicegrip > that seems extremely cheap.
[22:14:27] Vicegrip > Now, for the big one... how about that 'loyalty' clause?
[22:15:12] Vicegrip > I suppose I'd like to hear your appraisal of us as a target before you can estimate our worth for hazing. Its likely to go up as I do more out-of-station work, but we're really nobodies at the moment.
[22:17:55] Alekseyev Karrde > heh well i would charge about 500m flat rate, plus the fee to war dec you
[22:18:20] Alekseyev Karrde > with probably bonus for killing your towers
[22:20:09] Alekseyev Karrde > per week
[22:20:23] Alekseyev Karrde > hehe
[22:20:45] Vicegrip > Well, I'm looking for a reliable mercenary organisation, I don't want to shop around when its time for the killing to start
[22:21:32] Alekseyev Karrde > i dont think it should be the price as if i was killing you
[22:21:50] Vicegrip > And judging that, if you war dec us, we're not going to do business together... its a loss of income if you did take a contract against us
[22:22:23] Alekseyev Karrde > the income would be coming from someone else heh
[22:23:12] Vicegrip > 30 million a month, simply to decline contracts of any sort against my alliance.
[22:23:58] Vicegrip > also, we'll be coming to you first for competition towers we want taken down.
[22:25:58] Vicegrip > Your group has a respectable service record. But if you guys are booked, I wouldn't mind working with someone you recommend, if there comes a contract you can't support.
[22:27:56] Alekseyev Karrde > would 50m be acceptable? And as for referrals, yes i have a few units that i could recommend if were unable to get to you in time. One of them is bound to be free
[22:29:21] Vicegrip > 50 million a month is acceptable.
[22:29:49] Vicegrip > as for payment, I'd like to arrange a corporate fund transfer from <b><url=showinfo:2//471962326>Red Flag Accounting</url></b> to whatever location you accept it at.
[22:30:23] Vicegrip > and within 3 weeks I'll most likely have a second contract for you to look at involving harassing industrialists.
[22:30:28] Alekseyev Karrde > you can pay this character, i'll put it in the appropriate corp wallet dicions
[22:30:34] Alekseyev Karrde > *divisoin
[22:32:27] Alekseyev Karrde > say the 1st of every month?
[22:32:29] Vicegrip > so to make this simple I'll pay you monthly here on out starting on the first, 50 million ISK to your personal wallet, with appropriate notation
[22:32:42] Alekseyev Karrde > sounds great
[22:33:08] Vicegrip > You're definitely experienced at this. I'll do some recon and hail you again on some barge corps you can start popping
[22:33:35] Vicegrip > if available, can you tell me on average how many pilots do you have ready for POS sieges or empire / low sec war decs?
[22:35:18] Alekseyev Karrde > we have about 65actives at this time, will rise to 70 as people come back from finals
[22:36:23] Vicegrip > You guys busy lately?
[22:37:25] Alekseyev Karrde > fighting REPO and internal anarchy right now, got jobs for the next 3 weeks after that
[22:37:46] Alekseyev Karrde > where are your competators likly to be locatoed
[22:37:48] Alekseyev Karrde > *located
[22:38:22] Vicegrip > metropolis or heimetar regions
[22:39:00] Vicegrip > but depending on the situation we may have grudges anywhere in the galaxy
[22:41:24] Vicegrip > Well Alekseyev, thank you very much for your time
[22:41:39] Vicegrip > I look forward to doing my part to keep you and your men very busy
[22:41:49] Alekseyev Karrde > thats the way we like it :))
[22:41:57] Alekseyev Karrde > btw the bigger the target the better
[22:42:09] Alekseyev Karrde > we can cripple targets many times our size
[22:42:27] Vicegrip > that's what I like to hear! Specific POS's can be so strategic, at times...
[22:42:51] Vicegrip > luckily the market we're in is rather cutthroat
[22:42:57] Vicegrip > hence I am here speaking to you right now
[22:44:04] Vicegrip > fly safe, we'll speak again as soon as I get some other affairs together
[22:44:16] Alekseyev Karrde > rgr
[22:44:20] Alekseyev Karrde > take care

nerd_man @ 2009-04-29T17:22:00

2009-04-29T21:25:04Z

Alekseyev,

My name is Vicegrip and I am the lead industrialist for a very under-gunned alliance, Red Flag Sovereignty.

Being an industrialist means my pockets are deep. I'm interested in these things from a mercenary corp:

Escort from Empire to low sec factories in a freighter, and back.
War Decs + POS destruction on competitive industrialists.
Loyalty, i.e. a longstanding contract merely to refuse contracts that target Red Flag Sovereignty.
War decs on mercenaries against us.

I would not have a problem paying a premium for these services, or paying for them per event, i.e. charge for an escort, etc. Since the same escorts would be made frequently, I'd like an established price. I expect escorts to cost 65% for safe arrival and 35% for safe return, due to cargo value.

Depending on a few things, I'd like to begin within 3 weeks. Let me know some details of your arrangements. We have no war targets in mind as of now.

-Vicegrip

nerd_man @ 2009-03-28T20:12:00

2009-03-29T00:12:24Z

How to Find your purpose in life

2009-02-22T08:07:54Z

Here’s what to do:

Take out a blank sheet of paper or open up a word processor where you can type (I prefer the latter because it’s faster).
Write at the top, “What is my true purpose in life?”
Write an answer (any answer) that pops into your head. It doesn’t have to be a complete sentence. A short phrase is fine.
Repeat step 3 until you write the answer that makes you cry. This is your purpose.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/01/how-to-discover-your-life-purpose-in-about-20-minutes/

nerd_man @ 2009-02-19T22:26:00

2009-02-20T03:26:17Z

Thus, to create a robot capable of the type of consent required for moral responsibility in risk‐taking,
we must create a Kantian‐autonomous robot—but even if that were possible, creating such a robot
cannot possibly yet be justified from an ‘acceptable risk’ ethical perspective. Relatedly, a crucial risk
to be avoided in making the deployment of robots morally acceptable is at all costs to avoid the
possibility of rampancy, i.e., an AI overwriting its own programming, at least as regards the most
fundamental aspects of its goals, such as the LOW and ROE. Such a robot would have the potential
to leave behind its imposed slave morality and become autonomous in the Kantian sense: the
programmer of its own self and own goals, or the maker of its own destiny. Not only would such
robots pose incredible risks to humans in the possibility of rampancy, but they would also be
undesirable from a military ethics and responsibility perspective: they would then move moral
responsibility from the commanding officer to the robot itself. But the refusal (and current inability)
to create a Kantian‐autonomous robot solves Sparrow’s dilemma. So for the foreseeable future, we
solve both the problems of risk and responsibility by requiring a slave morality.

nerd_man @ 2009-02-08T12:00:00

2009-02-08T17:00:54Z

Gratt,

The materials for your order are in stock and we are ready to begin construction. Manufacture time will be 33 hours 20 minutes.

The price comes out to 3,496,456.00 ISK (69.93 ISK per round).

Before construction is completed, please reply with the location you would like the ammunition delivered to- shipping is free inside the Panorad Constellation.

Thank you for supporting the Red Flag!

-Vicegrip

nerd_man @ 2009-02-02T22:02:00

2009-02-03T03:02:06Z

2009.02.02 21:36
Where did you buy this from? It is almost 25% overpriced.

-Vice
--------------------

2009.02.03 02:12
This is the region's avg price according to the markets.
--------------------

2008.02.03 03:02
I don't want to make a huge deal about it, but this pretty much looks like you are trying to make a quick buck at the corporation's expense.

Make your contracts for 0 ISK and I will pay you Jita system sale prices. The concract you've submitted isn't going to be accepted. If you bought this specifically for the corporation and hauled it here, I'd like a screenshot of the wallet transaction. I don't want to be a jerk about it, but the tone of your reply has cast considerable doubt on the sincerity of your intentions.

-Vicegrip

nerd_man @ 2009-01-14T20:52:00

2009-01-15T01:52:40Z

[01:41:47] Zukth Fu > tyello
[01:42:00] Viceclamp > Zukth... tell me... why would I recieve a mail that says things like this:
[01:42:03] Viceclamp >
2009.01.15 01:41
i have it on good info that one of your corp members is trying to warn asteri members that you guys are talking of hunting them down, just thought you should know
[01:43:04] Zukth Fu > well, we were supposed to have separated on friendly terms and needlessly looking for combat will help no-one
[01:43:10] Viceclamp > so you warned them.
[01:43:16] Viceclamp > You could have started a war!
[01:43:45] Zukth Fu > i could have started a war?
[01:43:51] Viceclamp > And it wasn't on friendly terms, Milo barged out like an asshole and threatened to kill me.
[01:44:07] Viceclamp > I was lucky to get the slam the door behind him.... They quit before I could fire them.
[01:44:13] Zukth Fu > yeah, but the threat was against you and not the corp in general
[01:44:47] Viceclamp > You can't be a double agent for a group of people that doesn't like me and doesn't like this alliance.
[01:45:18] Zukth Fu > im no double agent, i was just making an attempt to avoid some unnecesary aggresion
[01:45:37] Viceclamp > There's no way I can trust you or say things in front of you if you repeat them to Asteri Rising... who I'm sure is looking for an excuse to go on the warpath towards us.
[01:45:57] Zukth Fu > im oretty sure they arent, if they were they would have done that allready
[01:46:45] Viceclamp > You have been with us damn near the beginning and you are one of the oldest corp members. What would you do if you were me?
[01:47:05] Zukth Fu > dude, i didnt wanna see any of us fighting needlessly
[01:47:11] Zukth Fu > i didnt give us away to them to get beaten
[01:47:30] Zukth Fu > im not selling the corp out
[01:47:46] Viceclamp > you might not see it like that man, but if Milo caught wind I would be in his neighborhood, he would have a gang ready.
[01:47:55] Viceclamp > Whether you meant it to be or not, that's a sell out.
[01:48:11] Zukth Fu > fuck. im sorry man.
[01:48:24] Viceclamp > You can't be friends with them
[01:48:32] Viceclamp > I mean, you can, but it does not serve our interests as an alliance
[01:49:05] Viceclamp > so no more friendly warnings
[01:49:26] Zukth Fu > well, shit,. bassically me, Milo, and Xen, and one other guy had a thing going where we wouldnt aggress each other
[01:49:37] Viceclamp > so don't agress
[01:49:44] Zukth Fu > and kinda, do our best to stay out of each others way
[01:50:00] Zukth Fu > so we wouldnt get any awkward situations
[01:50:15] Viceclamp > but if you hesitate for one second to shoot back....
[01:50:19] Zukth Fu > and, this is probably the most awkward situation. but it would be horrible to leave red flag, and i mean that
[01:50:36] Zukth Fu > i will shoot back at ANYONE that shoots at me, and my friends here in the alliance
[01:50:45] Viceclamp > And I don't really want to lose you, but that alone proves your loyalty is clouded man
[01:51:31] Viceclamp > So just do me a favor, keep in mind who has your back, and who jumped ship when we wouldn't charge headlong into their pirate's nest
[01:51:56] Zukth Fu > well, yeah
[01:52:03] Zukth Fu > sorry john.
[01:52:15] Viceclamp > I forgive you this time.
[01:52:17] Viceclamp > Fly safe matt
[01:52:34] Zukth Fu > cheers

nerd_man @ 2008-12-28T22:35:00

2008-12-29T03:35:25Z

[03:17:05] PastyWhiteDevil > hey
[03:17:25] Vicegrip > good evening
[03:17:32] Vicegrip > Merry Christmas?
[03:17:45] PastyWhiteDevil > yep
[03:17:47] PastyWhiteDevil > lol
[03:17:51] PastyWhiteDevil > u2
[03:17:59] Vicegrip > aye
[03:18:04] PastyWhiteDevil > i just got your mail
[03:18:11] Vicegrip > Assumably =)
[03:18:15] Vicegrip > I really must appologise.
[03:18:15] PastyWhiteDevil > so were we right about them?
[03:18:19] Vicegrip > You were.
[03:18:44] PastyWhiteDevil > its fine
[03:18:53] PastyWhiteDevil > u went off the evidence u had
[03:19:05] Vicegrip > sadly that is the limb I went out on to hope that maybe they would be a good corp, but lemme tell you, when the war dec dropped, their attitude turned around quick.
[03:19:47] PastyWhiteDevil > we had more because we had spies in there
[03:19:50] Vicegrip > So, not sure what your intentions are. They left in a hissy fit when I told them we're not moving to their bullshit 0.2 system.
[03:20:28] PastyWhiteDevil > lol they arnt ready for a 0.2 system
[03:20:33] Vicegrip > as written, If you so choose, I'll pay your war dec bill.
[03:21:22] Vicegrip > they talked a lot of trash, but our decision is, we will not war dec them ourselves until they make true on some
[03:22:18] PastyWhiteDevil > im not sure what we are gonna do. however, i would like to establish mutual blue standings if thats possible
[03:23:34] Vicegrip > no problem with that at all, but before we sign it in stone let me ask what the other guys think.
[03:23:48] PastyWhiteDevil > ok.
[03:24:04] PastyWhiteDevil > what did u mean by make true?
[03:24:14] PastyWhiteDevil > did they threaten the alliance?
[03:24:18] Vicegrip > yes.
[03:24:27] PastyWhiteDevil > lol
[03:24:29] Vicegrip > and more specifically me personally, lol
[03:24:33] Vicegrip > pretty childish.
[03:24:46] Vicegrip > But if they do open fire on anyone because of the alliance tag, yes, it'll be a war.
[03:24:53] Vicegrip > and us camping their beloved home of Brin.
[03:25:13] PastyWhiteDevil > thats priceless, because were it not for u guys they would hae been slaughtered
[03:25:20] PastyWhiteDevil > by us
[03:26:52] Vicegrip > isn't it? it makes me feel really dumb for supporting them in the first place =P
[03:27:20] PastyWhiteDevil > lol. hate to say i told u so =P
[03:27:43] Vicegrip > well you did, and that's why I insist on paying your wardec bill if you do declare on them again
[03:28:00] Vicegrip > though, if you end up not, I wouldn't blame you. They don't have much to take.
[03:28:42] PastyWhiteDevil > well thank you. i think bbq wants to. and i certainly wouldnt be opposed to it
[03:28:55] Vicegrip > how much does that come out to?
[03:28:56] Vicegrip > 2m a week?
[03:29:07] PastyWhiteDevil > i believe so
[03:29:49] Vicegrip > alrighty - that turned around nicely
[03:29:57] Vicegrip > thanks for being so civil, Ecinsu Ocha
[03:30:26] PastyWhiteDevil > lol
[03:30:37] PastyWhiteDevil > np
[03:31:26] Vicegrip > I'll get back to you on alliance-wide blue mark within the next 24 hours
[03:32:55] PastyWhiteDevil > ok cool. talk to u later.
[03:33:00] Vicegrip > fly safe.
[03:33:05] PastyWhiteDevil > u to
[03:33:09] PastyWhiteDevil > 0/
[03:33:15] Vicegrip > o/

nerd_man @ 2008-12-27T17:07:00

2008-12-27T22:07:34Z

[21:49:17] Milo Caman > Lo'
[21:49:19] Vicegrip > Hail.
[21:49:42] Vicegrip > Jakara brought to my attention a little alliance chat tension from the other day?
[21:49:43] Milo Caman > Dunno if you've heard... we've been Thrown out of Brin.
[21:49:48] Milo Caman > Yeah.
[21:49:52] Vicegrip > That makes this to the point.
[21:50:02] Vicegrip > I wanted you out of there anyway.
[21:50:10] Vicegrip > The rest of the alliance had no intention of ever moving that way.
[21:50:33] Milo Caman > ...
[21:51:14] Milo Caman > I must consult the directorate.
[21:51:21] Vicegrip > Lets bring this in the war room, the other officers need to be in on this.
[21:51:32] Milo Caman > I feel we will, not after all be staying with this alliance, although the decision is not down to myself
[21:51:59] Vicegrip > Because you like Brin?
[21:52:45] Milo Caman > Peronnaly? Not so much, although it's the attitude and the general modd I get from REDFL at present
[21:53:26] Vicegrip > How is your CEO going to appreciate you throwing away this opportunity?
[21:53:35] Milo Caman > 0.0? It was never a goal
[21:53:55] Milo Caman > and This is my opinion, Janis has been in touch, and returns tomorrow evening
[21:56:17] Vicegrip > Alright Milo, I suppose I'm somewhat glad you tried
[21:57:09] Milo Caman > to actually get your members to do something? Of course I would. My Vote will go towards leaving, and that's all you need to know.
[21:57:15] Milo Caman > Good Day Sir!

nerd_man @ 2008-12-18T22:04:00

2008-12-19T03:04:09Z

[02:28:16] PastyWhiteDevil > he was in a heron. a t1 caldari frig
[02:28:45] PastyWhiteDevil > i killed him in the hope that he wouldnt come back
[02:29:03] PastyWhiteDevil > cause he would have stolen millions more
[02:29:35] PastyWhiteDevil > they came to u like they were the victims right?
[02:29:44] Vicegrip > you could say that
[02:30:23] PastyWhiteDevil > when in all actuallity they provoked us and we decided to do something about it
[02:30:57] Vicegrip > I think you guys are at war with a whole corp and now a whole alliance over one dumb kid
[02:31:19] Vicegrip > did you ever talk to the CEO about this guy?
[02:31:26] Vicegrip > getting reparations in a diplomatic manner, etc?
[02:31:37] PastyWhiteDevil > yea we did
[02:31:48] Vicegrip > Asteri told you to F off basically?
[02:32:01] PastyWhiteDevil > however, in looking at their website, we saw that this is what these guys do
[02:32:18] PastyWhiteDevil > no they wanted to know how much money we wanted
[02:32:41] PastyWhiteDevil > we arnt pirates so we arnt gonna ransome a wardeck
[02:34:17] PastyWhiteDevil > and we we really didnt believe that they would punish him because they are pirates. why would they punish him for doing things that they as a corp condone?
[02:34:55] Vicegrip > but, now you're taking what is /mostly/ an assumption and rolling with it.
[02:35:14] Vicegrip > I don't think Asteri are pirates. If I did, I would have booted them from the alliance last night. That's not my game.
[02:35:20] PastyWhiteDevil > were you able to view the blogs?
[02:35:42] Vicegrip > I was
[02:35:49] Vicegrip > I'm not very convinced.
[02:36:22] PastyWhiteDevil > u dodnt find anything about they ransoming ppl or ganking supply lines?
[02:36:32] Vicegrip > that was one blog entry
[02:36:42] Vicegrip > and they answer to me now for their conduct.
[02:37:11] Vicegrip > Do you want reparations for the lost salvage? As their superior I feel its my duty to end this on a professional note
[02:37:17] PastyWhiteDevil > fine then its a wannabe pirate corp
[02:37:44] Vicegrip > I mean, what did you want out of this war dec?
[02:37:58] Vicegrip > what would have made you call it off between just you and Asteri?
[02:38:33] PastyWhiteDevil > we did it to make a point
[02:38:56] Vicegrip > your point still hasn't been made because Asteri can't even agree with themselves why you started this war
[02:39:16] PastyWhiteDevil > and to inconvenience them to some extent
[02:39:22] Vicegrip > to them, they still feel like its a random war dec. You do have a crazy warmonger name, "Mayhem Brothers"
[02:40:05] PastyWhiteDevil > they point is dont mess with/steal crap from us, cause we arnt just gonna lay down and take it
[02:40:20] PastyWhiteDevil > we actually want to be a merc corp
[02:40:40] PastyWhiteDevil > so yea we pvp, but we dont deck ppl for no reason
[02:41:08] PastyWhiteDevil > if we wanted to just kill things we would have just gone into low sec
[02:41:35] PastyWhiteDevil > so does that explain our name?
[02:41:43] Vicegrip > yeah lol
[02:42:07] Vicegrip > You know, sadly if it wasn't for this drama I would want to consider you guys to join the alliance
[02:42:21] Vicegrip > you just want a sovereign home and a way to make money, then PvP for fun
[02:42:32] PastyWhiteDevil > pretty much
[02:42:34] PastyWhiteDevil > but
[02:42:55] PastyWhiteDevil > at we are trying to contact the ex-MC member corps
[02:43:14] PastyWhiteDevil > and see if they wanted to possibly get something going again
[02:44:13] PastyWhiteDevil > our previous alliance was a bunch of miners and industrialist , and we were basically their military
[02:44:20] Vicegrip > well good on you. I hope you guys get what you're looking for.
[02:44:25] Vicegrip > but we're straying from the point.
[02:44:40] Vicegrip > What goal are you looking to meet to call this war finished?
[02:44:45] PastyWhiteDevil > ok thx, and yea we are
[02:45:36] PastyWhiteDevil > we basically just wanted to deck asteri for a week to make the point that i stated above
[02:47:11] PastyWhiteDevil > we also dont like ninja salvages, because our primary source of income is through mission running
[02:47:22] Vicegrip > so... formal appology... war reparitions... Xen's pod on a silver platter... etc?
[02:47:56] PastyWhiteDevil > im not sure id have to discuss it with the other directors
[02:48:38] Vicegrip > because.... on friendly terms I think both corps could use the PvP experience
[02:49:09] Vicegrip > but its my duty to wrap this up
[02:49:21] Vicegrip > we have bigger things to do than PvP frivilously in empire
[02:49:38] PastyWhiteDevil > yea the only reason we havnt engaged u head on is cause a lot of our members have things in rl going on and cant be on
[02:50:04] Vicegrip > and FYI, Mr BBQ is a pretty inept diplomat.... maybe he was just tired but trying to speak with him left a pretty bad taste in my mouth
[02:50:07] Vicegrip > you're a lot more elloquent
[02:50:32] PastyWhiteDevil > thank you.
[02:50:47] Vicegrip > I want this war to end.
[02:50:56] Vicegrip > My board of directors.... they're bloodthirsty assholes.
[02:51:03] Vicegrip > But that's okay, I hold the big red buttons
[02:51:05] PastyWhiteDevil > lol
[02:51:30] PastyWhiteDevil > yea. another thing for them to consider though
[02:52:14] PastyWhiteDevil > is if they want us to fight them in a fleet. they should consider a smaller fleet. we arnt gonna engage then 5 of us to 9 or 12 of them
[02:52:30] PastyWhiteDevil > thats not cowardly. thats just being smart
[02:52:39] Vicegrip > I concur
[02:55:03] Vicegrip > Once again, Echinsu Ocha....
[02:55:20] PastyWhiteDevil > what does that mean?
[02:55:32] Vicegrip > White Devil?!
[02:55:39] Vicegrip > Come on.
[02:55:45] PastyWhiteDevil > in what language?
[02:55:59] Vicegrip > whatever language that guy was speaking in ace Ventura: pet detective.
[02:56:05] Vicegrip > I guess that's not what your name is from.
[02:56:09] Vicegrip > Lol
[02:56:15] PastyWhiteDevil > oh yea that just crossed my mind lol
[02:56:23] PastyWhiteDevil > i remember now lol
[02:56:56] Vicegrip > ...eitherhow.
[02:57:27] Vicegrip > I'd like to just say, make your demands.
[02:57:38] Vicegrip > Because I'm just going to beat them out of Asteri Rising, lol
[02:57:51] PastyWhiteDevil > lol
[02:58:14] Vicegrip > but really, I'd like to wrap this up more or less, whatever you're looking to get, just lemme know so I can accelerate the process and we can get on with our other plans.
[02:58:18] PastyWhiteDevil > yea we basically just wanted asteri rising
[02:58:39] Vicegrip > I'm probably not going to get them to disband. Sorry. =/
[02:59:38] PastyWhiteDevil > is it possible that we could just go after them and as punishment u guys dont help?
[02:59:51] Vicegrip > so you just wanna kill a bunch of them?
[03:00:27] Vicegrip > no, I'm afraid in the name of diplomacy you're gonna have to choose something a little more civilized than that, lol
[03:00:34] PastyWhiteDevil > pretty much, or if they dont come out to fight, just chase them around so they cant make money for a week
[03:00:45] PastyWhiteDevil > lol
[03:01:21] PastyWhiteDevil > =(
[03:02:19] Vicegrip > If they boot the thieving fucker, would it satisfy your demands?
[03:03:11] PastyWhiteDevil > that may be a possibility
[03:03:21] PastyWhiteDevil > i know that id be hapy with that
[03:03:32] PastyWhiteDevil > but again its not just up to me
[03:03:32] Vicegrip > sleep on it. I'll talk to the Asteri leadership and we'll move from there.
[03:03:41] Vicegrip > Ask your guys, what could it hurt.
[03:03:41] PastyWhiteDevil > ok
[03:03:45] Vicegrip > Fly safe.
[03:03:50] PastyWhiteDevil > k u2

nerd_man @ 2008-12-18T21:24:00

2008-12-19T02:24:09Z

[02:05:59] Mr Barbeque > yo
[02:06:03] Vicegrip > Good evening.
[02:06:22] Vicegrip > So... I'd like to hear it straight from the top.... Why haven't you repealed this war dec yet?
[02:07:11] Mr Barbeque > why would i?
[02:07:20] Mr Barbeque > besides its not up to me
[02:07:25] Mr Barbeque > not all of it
[02:07:38] Vicegrip > you're the CEO of the declaring corp... a few clicks from you and the war is over
[02:08:08] Mr Barbeque > i know
[02:08:16] Vicegrip > and your losses have been staggering
[02:09:02] Mr Barbeque > not particularly
[02:10:02] Vicegrip > ....a hac ain't cheap buddy
[02:10:17] Vicegrip > Really, what is this all about?
[02:10:31] Vicegrip > because I've no idea why
[02:10:51] Mr Barbeque > no a fully fitted and rigged carrier aint cheap.
[02:11:05] Mr Barbeque > well i have no idea what asteri told you,
[02:11:45] Mr Barbeque > i can guess, but one of their members was harrasing several of mine
[02:12:29] Mr Barbeque > he came into thier mission, and started ninja salvaging
[02:12:40] Mr Barbeque > constantly...
[02:12:41] Vicegrip > yes, I've heard about this incident.
[02:12:52] Mr Barbeque > which as you can imagin get really old, really fast
[02:12:55] Vicegrip > One incident... in which the salvage thief did not escape the complex with any salvage
[02:13:22] Mr Barbeque > pasty can give you more details i wasn't there
[02:13:57] Vicegrip > That's who I talked to before, it seems you guys are making a big deal out of something that wasn't.
[02:14:18] Mr Barbeque > from what i was told it was multiple times, but pasty suicide ganked him.
[02:14:36] Mr Barbeque > its not
[02:15:25] Vicegrip > from what it looks like, our biggest loss is a battlecruiser.
[02:15:28] Mr Barbeque > not by itsself, but most of my members who run alot of missions have this happen alot
[02:15:50] Vicegrip > your Member Jeffery Lebowskie lost a megathron.
[02:16:01] Vicegrip > Luminarios a blackbird.
[02:16:19] Mr Barbeque > jeffs got a wallet the size of a planet, i think hes good
[02:16:29] Mr Barbeque > a t1 cruiser is cheap
[02:17:43] Vicegrip > ....I'm sorry but I don't know how to begin to explain to you how stupid you seem right now
[02:17:49] Vicegrip > what is really going through your head?
[02:18:00] Vicegrip > its okay to keep watching your ships go splody splody because... why?
[02:18:43] Mr Barbeque > ok up until this point you haven't tried to talk smak or throw insults around
[02:18:49] Vicegrip > very true
[02:18:53] Vicegrip > my men have orders to be silent
[02:18:53] Mr Barbeque > now you have
[02:18:57] Vicegrip > but between you and me
[02:19:04] Vicegrip > you've got no point to carry on this war
[02:20:03] Mr Barbeque > well im not retracing it
[02:20:15] Vicegrip > why?
[02:20:21] Mr Barbeque > no one in my corp wants this wardeck over
[02:21:12] Vicegrip > alright
[02:21:27] Vicegrip > as long as the details are not escaping you
[02:21:54] Mr Barbeque > that made no sense
[02:22:18] Mr Barbeque > ok i got it
[02:22:24] Mr Barbeque > sorry rather tierd today
[02:22:56] Vicegrip > alright Mr. BBQ
[02:23:16] Vicegrip > fly safe?
[02:23:31] Mr Barbeque > you too

nerd_man @ 2008-12-10T18:51:00

2008-12-10T23:51:36Z

http://www.robothighschool.com/music/robothighschool.mp3

nerd_man @ 2008-12-03T21:14:00

2008-12-04T02:14:33Z

MacPak Momster (9:13:46 PM): nothing we can do to change it- like deatha nd taxes- they all suck!

Funny, Death AND Taxes - I had plans to get around both.

nerd_man @ 2008-12-02T16:21:00

2008-12-02T21:21:55Z

I think you are content being miserable. Because if you were happy, it would conflict with your character, and then you wouldn't know how to be.

-Lingo, in her infinite wisdom.

nerd_man @ 2008-11-15T21:59:00

2008-11-16T02:59:50Z

And I can't tell if you're laughing
Between each smile there's a tear in your eye
There's a train leaving town in an hour
It's not waiting for you and neither am I

nerd_man @ 2008-11-15T08:51:00

2008-11-15T13:54:47Z

Hmm.

Change is pain.

*gets asprin ready*

nerd_man @ 2008-10-29T07:37:00

2008-10-29T10:51:29Z

Its strange how sometimes, the most distant and unfeeling things can catch your ear.

In the universe's most anti-stereotypical twist of fate yet, though the military is the pinnacle example of discipline, lately I've hardly had the control to get myself out of bed.

To be honest, who ever conquered the world without getting out of bed? It'd be a feat, but it won't be me. Gaining control of my own facilities would be the first step towards global domination.

If I vote, it'll be for Obama. I'm not sure if I'm going to though, because it does show support for a... unorthodox system. Electoral college means- Your vote doesn't count. Statistics show! More people voted for Al Gore, but he didn't get enough points. Sorry Michigan and Florida residents.. your vote is only 0.8x as valuable as a Californian's vote.

A couple of times over the course of this journal, I've thrown out the concept of taking over the world with an army of robots. While weighing my options, I still think an army of machines incapable of disobedience or betrayal would still be the perfect vehicle for any takeover, these robots may not necessarily be for combat. How about construction? Control the whole food chain, beginning with mining the ore, to turning it to steel, to building things out of that steel - pay zero dollars labor the whole way up - I'll put every fleshbag out of business.

Yeah, it'd collapse the economy. Sorry guys, economies based on currency are kind of outdated... Don't worry, our animalistic brethren will move on soon enough.

What if communism WASN'T the answer though? People have said, communism won't work because people are greedy. Because everyone wants to feel better than somebody, and without capitalism, without competition, without having someone to look down at and laugh at, then people won't be fulfilled.

I don't think everybody is like that... and everyone that is, will probably be burned in the fires of revolution. Unfair? Maybe, but necessary.

I did indeed convince myself to lay off the snooze button, and here I am building the proof that I did so. I think maybe a little healthy expression will help me not be such a nutso anymore.

Sadly this whole journal will have to be burned... Maybe. Probably. This whole "blatant disregard for authority" part does not go over well with big brother.

Remember folks, this pitiful life we lead in this fragile fleshsack is but transient and temporary. Until they solve the telomere problem, and believe me, when they do, I'll be all over it. 6,000th birthday, here I come.

The furious forms of life
Our days are never coming back
The cannons of our time
Our days are never coming back

nerd_man @ 2008-10-03T23:30:00

2008-10-04T04:00:56Z

Love me cancerously
Like a salt-sore soaked in the sea.
'High-maintenance' means
You're a gluttonous queen
Narcissistic and mean.
Kill me romantically
Fill my soul with vomit
Then ask me for a piece of gum.
Bitter and dumb
You're my sugarplum.
You're awful. I love you!

She moves through moonbeams slowly
She knows just how to hold me
And when her edges soften
Her body is my coffin
I know she drains me slowly
She wears me down to bones in bed

Must be the sign on my head
That says, oh...
Love me dead! Love me dead!

Get this shit out of my head. And that damn whistle... Yeah. That's how they get you. I don't necessarily relate to the meaning behind it. But the doubletaking love/hate deal is such a catchy theme.

its a pretty regular saturday night at home. Playing video games like any regular single guy would do. What? I'm not single? Could've fooled me. That's the misery behind distance. I'm a single guy 5 days a week, or in this case, 28 days out of the month. And that's about bad enough, but now Ashley's losing her mind over it. Nothing I can do about it from here. And no way I can go down there now. Its convenient to say that your own fate is out of your own hands, but that's never the case. But for me to say Ashley's fate was ever in MY hands to begin with would be equally foolhardy.

No idea where I was going with this.

nerd_man @ 2008-09-26T22:02:00

2008-09-27T02:02:15Z

You're now talking to NBSTD-Hai01 from 'Notebook ' The topic is : Will not power up

NBSTD-Hai01> Hello, this is Hai from notebook support, how may I assist you today?
John> hello I just got an ASUS G1S
John> the battery has died and it will no longer charge with the charger it came with.
John> The green light on the charger is flickering rapidly and the charging light on the notebook won't come on.
NBSTD-Hai01> I see, do you know for sure that it is the battery that is bad, or is the charger power supply in the motherboard bad?
NBSTD-Hai01> SO on the AC adaptor brick, the green light is flickering?
John> yes
John> When plugged into the notebook, no lights turn on.
NBSTD-Hai01> I see, that would mean the AC adaptor is bad, hang on for one moment.
NBSTD-Hai01> Please verify the serial number on the bottom of the notebook with the original battery.
NBSTD-Hai01> It is close to 84N0AGKRR029
John> G1S-AK069C
John> the battery says 79N0AG017961
NBSTD-Hai01> Is this the original battery that came with your unit...
John> yes
NBSTD-Hai01> Okay, hang on for a moment.
NBSTD-Hai01> It shows that this is a Best Buy Unit taht has a one year warranty.
NBSTD-Hai01> Based on the serial number it shows that the warranty has expired. Do you have a receipt from Best Buy?
John> I have a reciept from a different vendor
John> I bought this yesterday.
John> When did the warranty begin? I just opened the box a few hours ago
NBSTD-Hai01> Where did you buy it at?
NBSTD-Hai01> The serial number on the batteyr shows September 2007.
John> ecomelectronics.com
NBSTD-Hai01> But verify that with the serial number on the bottom of the laptop.
NBSTD-Hai01> We would take the serial number on the bottom of the laptop over the battery if it is different.
John> it is a sticker.
NBSTD-Hai01> What you have inputed previously is 84N0AGKRR029
NBSTD-Hai01> It is close to that but the last 6 characters are digits.
John> 84N0AGKRR029
NBSTD-Hai01> Just like the battery.
John> oh.
NBSTD-Hai01> Also did you buy this Brand new factory sealed?
John> yes
NBSTD-Hai01> Okay please double check the serial number on the bottom of the laptop.
John> that serial number is correct
John> what's wrong with it?
NBSTD-Hai01> Also did the battery come with the laptop in the box because it should match the laptop's serial number if it is brand new.
John> this laptop was sealed with Asus tape.
John> why don't they match?
NBSTD-Hai01> There is no KRR in the serial number.
John> G1S-AK069C
John> is that the right length?
NBSTD-Hai01> The length is correct.
NBSTD-Hai01> Is it possible for you to take a picture of the bottom and scan a copy of your invoice to our email box to double check.
John> I don't have a scanner...
John> Could I try taking a picture of it though?
NBSTD-Hai01> Yes, please send an attachment with all your information to our email box ASUSNBTSD@GMAIL.COM
NBSTD-Hai01> Including your Full name, number, shipping address as well as the battery serial number you just gave.
John> okay. How quickly can I expect a response?
NBSTD-Hai01> Within 1 or 2 business days.
NBSTD-Hai01> Please also put this case number in the subject line 266709.
NBSTD-Hai01> and write it down for your records.
John> thank you very much.
John> I use Asus motherboards in all my desktop PCs =)
NBSTD-Hai01> You're welcome.